# Cloud camera project **URL:** \ **Category:** Tempest Owners\ **Created:** [April 27, 2021, 10:43am UTC](https://community.tempest.earth/t/cloud-camera-project/13348 "2021-04-27T10:43:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![sunny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/community.tempest.earth/sunny/32/16368_2.png) [@sunny](https://community.tempest.earth/u/sunny)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2021, 10:43am UTC](https://community.tempest.earth/t/cloud-camera-project/13348/1 "2021-04-27T10:43:08Z")
Next project… just arrived a few days ago. A new sensitive Pan/Tilt/Zoom camera for taking cloud pictures. It is sensitive enough that it can see clouds during the night without any problem. The idea is to take the wind direction from the tempest and automatically point the camera in the direction the wind is coming from. Of course make the camera move very, very slowly, so the timelapse will still look beautiful. Did someone already make that and want to share the how-to, or do I “invent” this from scratch? ![2021-04-27_12-26-28_442](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/uploads/sws/original/2X/7/783c26ea76bba2b4862a5e195f96cf06f0698c88.jpeg) it will take sometime to complete as before I do this I’m going to build a cocktail machine, which has to be ready before summer starts. Stay tuned. (perhaps I should invent an 'official weatherflow cocktail 😉 ) ---
**Author:** ![jim.wn1x](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/community.tempest.earth/jim.wn1x/32/1014_2.png) [@jim.wn1x](https://community.tempest.earth/u/jim.wn1x)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2021, 11:08am UTC](https://community.tempest.earth/t/cloud-camera-project/13348/2 "2021-04-27T11:08:14Z")
I do believe the drink already exists: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane\_(cocktail)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_(cocktail)) ---
**Author:** ![sunny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/community.tempest.earth/sunny/32/16368_2.png) [@sunny](https://community.tempest.earth/u/sunny)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2021, 2:09pm UTC](https://community.tempest.earth/t/cloud-camera-project/13348/3 "2021-04-27T14:09:40Z")
😃 that’s a good one. I should try it. ---
**Author:** ![btst.online](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/community.tempest.earth/btst.online/32/16538_2.png) [@btst.online](https://community.tempest.earth/u/btst.online)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2021, 4:08pm UTC](https://community.tempest.earth/t/cloud-camera-project/13348/4 "2021-04-27T16:08:04Z")
I prefer a Dark & Stormy… dark rum & ginger beer. ---
**Author:** ![vinceskahan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/community.tempest.earth/vinceskahan/32/2785_2.png) [@vinceskahan](https://community.tempest.earth/u/vinceskahan)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2021, 12:55am UTC](https://community.tempest.earth/t/cloud-camera-project/13348/5 "2021-04-28T00:55:57Z")
> [@sunny](#): > > A new sensitive Pan/Tilt/Zoom camera for taking cloud pictures. Make and Model ? Wi-fi or ethernet or coax wired ? Cost ? Link to look into them ? Sounds like a fun addition… ---
**Author:** ![sunny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/community.tempest.earth/sunny/32/16368_2.png) [@sunny](https://community.tempest.earth/u/sunny)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2021, 8:52am UTC](https://community.tempest.earth/t/cloud-camera-project/13348/6 "2021-04-28T08:52:05Z")
> **[119.5US $ 30% OFF|SD22204UE GN 2MP Starlight PTZ Network Camera POE H.265...](https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32802797473.html)** > > Smarter Shopping, Better Living! Aliexpress.com it has very low lux ratings (it is starlight version) and works even in color at night. Also it has relatively long shutter speeds. As it operates 24/7 it needs too much power to be working from just a simple solar panel, so it needs a wire. I choose the Power-over-Ethernet version, so I needed only 1 cable, and no wifi. You could opt for a model with wifi, but you would still need to connect it with a cable for the power. But they have wifi versions as well. ---
**Author:** ![vinceskahan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/community.tempest.earth/vinceskahan/32/2785_2.png) [@vinceskahan](https://community.tempest.earth/u/vinceskahan)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2021, 3:45pm UTC](https://community.tempest.earth/t/cloud-camera-project/13348/7 "2021-04-28T15:45:08Z")
Thanks. Careful with your network segmentation on this one. Dauha is on the list of companies banned for use in the US at government sites or contractors/suppliers because they gear tries incessantly to phone home to China. You might want to do a little network sniffing to your LAN and block the cam outbound at a minimum. ---
**Author:** ![sunny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/community.tempest.earth/sunny/32/16368_2.png) [@sunny](https://community.tempest.earth/u/sunny)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2021, 4:11pm UTC](https://community.tempest.earth/t/cloud-camera-project/13348/8 "2021-04-28T16:11:33Z")
it isn’t a big issue, many things phone home, but I blocked it before it had a change to do so. ---
**Author:** ![vinceskahan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/community.tempest.earth/vinceskahan/32/2785_2.png) [@vinceskahan](https://community.tempest.earth/u/vinceskahan)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2021, 5:02pm UTC](https://community.tempest.earth/t/cloud-camera-project/13348/9 "2021-04-28T17:02:44Z")
It would be interesting if you have packet traces confirming it’s indeed trying to do so (or not). I see a zillion DNS lookups from a similar camera which was my first clue. FWIW, I set the camera’s DNS to 127.0.0.1 so it tried to look itself up 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![sunny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/community.tempest.earth/sunny/32/16368_2.png) [@sunny](https://community.tempest.earth/u/sunny)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2021, 6:06pm UTC](https://community.tempest.earth/t/cloud-camera-project/13348/10 "2021-04-28T18:06:25Z")
I ran wireshark for you. Where do you want to receive the results. I’m curious if you see anything out of the ordinary. ---
**Author:** ![vinceskahan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/community.tempest.earth/vinceskahan/32/2785_2.png) [@vinceskahan](https://community.tempest.earth/u/vinceskahan)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2021, 7:00pm UTC](https://community.tempest.earth/t/cloud-camera-project/13348/11 "2021-04-28T19:00:47Z")
A summary of what you found would be enough but if want to IM me a wireshark trace or stick it someplace I can get it, I can take a look. Running pihole on your LAN will show what’s happening re: the DNS lookup issue. You might see thousands of attempts per day from one camera. Pretty annoying. I’d expect you see a lot of DNS lookup attempts that lead back to the vendor in China. Hopefully you don’t see it trying to open any connections to the vendor if you’ve blocked it from accessing the Internet outbound (likely it wouldn’t try until you let the DNS resolve, even if you do that only one time as a test). My Amcrest and my Foscam knockoff both basically drive themselves crazy trying to do DNS lookups so they can then phone home, presumably for the mobile app remote access to the camera which is the scary stuff. For Amcrest and clones, there is no way to turn that behavior off. Anything Dahua or HikVision or the like do the same thing. I have not found any model camera that is network capable that does not do this. The pattern is: - the firmware has hardcoded FQDN in it that it tries to reach - it will do DNS lookups til it succeeds - it will then open connections to the vendor site (presumably) so the mobile app will work I still run my (US) Amcrest on the LAN as a feed for zoneminder running in a Docker container, but I block it from getting out of the LAN completely, or at least I ‘think’ I still block it. Maybe I need another test too. A power reset on the camera will definitely cause it to start over in whatever it does… (note - this is similar to what WF does on the Hub looking for time services and connecting to the WF servers, except we trust the WF guys a bit more) ---
**Author:** ![sunny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/community.tempest.earth/sunny/32/16368_2.png) [@sunny](https://community.tempest.earth/u/sunny)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2021, 7:23pm UTC](https://community.tempest.earth/t/cloud-camera-project/13348/12 "2021-04-28T19:23:25Z")
I just send you a link to the data. ---
**Author:** ![vreihen](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/community.tempest.earth/vreihen/32/13217_2.png) [@vreihen](https://community.tempest.earth/u/vreihen)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2021, 7:41pm UTC](https://community.tempest.earth/t/cloud-camera-project/13348/13 "2021-04-28T19:41:32Z")
> [@vinceskahan](#): > > My Amcrest and my Foscam knockoff both basically drive themselves crazy trying to do DNS lookups so they can then phone home, presumably for the mobile app remote access to the camera which is the scary stuff. For Amcrest and clones, there is no way to turn that behavior off. I was reading user reviews for an Amcrest NVR with a built-in POE switch a few years ago. Several people were complaining that all of the “smart” features of their cameras stopped working when they were plugged into a POE port on the NVR. My guess is that they are not routing the camera traffic out through the NVR’s ethernet port, which sounds like a win to me… 😃 ---
**Author:** ![user152](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/community.tempest.earth/user152/32/18006_2.png) [@user152](https://community.tempest.earth/u/user152)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2022, 3:36pm UTC](https://community.tempest.earth/t/cloud-camera-project/13348/14 "2022-01-05T15:36:13Z")
So, i have been thinking about maybe adding a webcam to use with my tempest but was not sure how to approach this. I have a meteobridge so it willl be through there potentially. Can someone help with providing a list of compatible cameras non expensive or ideas? Is it even worth it? ---
**Author:** ![vinceskahan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/community.tempest.earth/vinceskahan/32/2785_2.png) [@vinceskahan](https://community.tempest.earth/u/vinceskahan)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2022, 5:50pm UTC](https://community.tempest.earth/t/cloud-camera-project/13348/15 "2022-01-05T17:50:32Z")
You should ask in a meteobridge forum or [wxforum.net](http://wxforum.net) which covers a lot of gear. ---
**Author:** ![iladyman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/community.tempest.earth/iladyman/32/2305_2.png) [@iladyman](https://community.tempest.earth/u/iladyman)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2022, 9:48pm UTC](https://community.tempest.earth/t/cloud-camera-project/13348/16 "2022-01-05T21:48:41Z")
There have been camera suggestions, try a search [https://community.tempest.earth/search?q=Weather%20camera](https://community.tempest.earth/search?q=Weather%20camera) But Tempest currently does not provide any way to integrate a camera. Cheers Ian 🙂