# New Tempest Weather System

**URL:** <https://community.tempest.earth/t/new-tempest-weather-system/4444>\
**Category:** Announcements\
**Created:** [October 15, 2019, 1:36am UTC](https://community.tempest.earth/t/new-tempest-weather-system/4444 "2019-10-15T01:36:16Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![clevenger7778](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3d9bf3/32.png) [@clevenger7778](https://community.tempest.earth/u/clevenger7778)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2019, 2:32am UTC](https://community.tempest.earth/t/new-tempest-weather-system/4444/21 "2019-10-17T02:32:09Z")

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As an existing user if we get the Tempest could we bring the Air unit inside and use it for internal temps and humidity or would it still be used in conjunction with the tempest? And has the breath been scraped?

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**Author:** ![WFmarketing](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/community.tempest.earth/wfmarketing/32/62_2.png) [@WFmarketing](https://community.tempest.earth/u/WFmarketing)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2019, 3:50am UTC](https://community.tempest.earth/t/new-tempest-weather-system/4444/22 "2019-10-17T03:50:02Z")

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> [@clevenger7778](#):
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> As an existing user if we get the Tempest could we bring the Air unit inside and use it for internal temps and humidity or would it still be used in conjunction with the tempest?

Definitely! You can place the AIR in your new wine cellar and monitor the indoor temp and humidity. No further development to report on an indoor AQ device – increasingly crowded market.

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**Author:** ![WFmarketing](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/community.tempest.earth/wfmarketing/32/62_2.png) [@WFmarketing](https://community.tempest.earth/u/WFmarketing)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2019, 4:07am UTC](https://community.tempest.earth/t/new-tempest-weather-system/4444/23 "2019-10-17T04:07:19Z")

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> [@pswilson1](#):
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> I don’t know how important AI forecasting is? People can get a forecast anyplace, what people with weather stations want is a accurate report of what is actually happening on their property. The forecasters with all the satellites and computers on earth and in space blew the rain forecast for me yesterday, I don’t count on them. But if I get any rain, I want to know how much, as accurately as possible.

@pswilson1 . You’re onto something. It is essential to know exactly what is going on at your house right now. But, it also powerful to know what will happen in the future with a higher degree of accuracy.

Pretty much all those other generic forecast apps/websites/TV stations use the same underlying government produced forecast models with no data enhancements, just pretty graphics. Don’t get us wrong, there is some of the world most advanced technology involved in these government models and we use a range of them everyday. What they are lacking is **ground truth data to validate** the forecasted “guess”. Having a quality weather station at your house feeding data into AI-enhanced forecast models can effectively “train” the system to learn where it gets it right and when it gets it wrong. Overtime, the AI technology can dramatically improve the accuracy at your exact location.

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**Author:** ![d.ani33](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/73ab20/32.png) [@d.ani33](https://community.tempest.earth/u/d.ani33)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2019, 8:52am UTC](https://community.tempest.earth/t/new-tempest-weather-system/4444/24 "2019-10-17T08:52:05Z")

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Teneis pensado algún día vender la new tempest weather system en España o en europa???  
El sensor de temperatura y humedad va alojado dentro de los platos?  
Good job

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**Author:** ![eric](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/community.tempest.earth/eric/32/13553_2.png) [@eric](https://community.tempest.earth/u/eric)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2019, 2:29pm UTC](https://community.tempest.earth/t/new-tempest-weather-system/4444/25 "2019-10-17T14:29:41Z")

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> [@d.ani33](#):
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> Teneis pensado algún día vender la new tempest weather system en España o en europa???  
> El sensor de temperatura y humedad va alojado dentro de los platos?

with the help of a translator

> El nuevo diseño integra los sensores del viejo ‘aire’ en el cielo. Es un diseño todo en uno. Con respecto a las ventas en Europa, solo el personal de WF puede responder.

@anon84912554 : can you please reply regarding selling the tempest in Europe or not ?

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**Author:** ![vinceskahan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/community.tempest.earth/vinceskahan/32/2785_2.png) [@vinceskahan](https://community.tempest.earth/u/vinceskahan)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2019, 3:53pm UTC](https://community.tempest.earth/t/new-tempest-weather-system/4444/26 "2019-10-17T15:53:00Z")

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> [@WFmarketing](#):
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> No further development to report on an indoor AQ device – increasingly crowded market.

So the Breathe is not going to happen ?

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**Author:** ![clevenger7778](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3d9bf3/32.png) [@clevenger7778](https://community.tempest.earth/u/clevenger7778)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2019, 2:11am UTC](https://community.tempest.earth/t/new-tempest-weather-system/4444/27 "2019-10-17T02:11:46Z")

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How do I become a field tester? I like the look of the new all in one unit.

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**Author:** ![d.ani33](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/73ab20/32.png) [@d.ani33](https://community.tempest.earth/u/d.ani33)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2019, 9:22pm UTC](https://community.tempest.earth/t/new-tempest-weather-system/4444/28 "2019-10-17T21:22:03Z")

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Hola ,buenas.  
La wheather flow tiene rosca debajo de la unidad para poder roscarla sobre un trípode?..  
Me refiero a la unidad que lleva el pluviómetro y el anemómetro.  
Muchas gracias

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**Author:** ![WFstaff](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/community.tempest.earth/wfstaff/32/6006_2.png) [@WFstaff](https://community.tempest.earth/u/WFstaff)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2019, 12:12pm UTC](https://community.tempest.earth/t/new-tempest-weather-system/4444/29 "2019-10-18T12:12:16Z")

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Hi thanks for speaking up, we can definitely help calibrate your haptic sensor, especially with the help of a co-located gauge. Please contact our customer service team if you haven’t already!  
Email [support@weatherflow.com](mailto:support@weatherflow.com) or [open a ticket](https://help.weatherflow.com/hc/en-us/requests/new)

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**Author:** ![sunny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/community.tempest.earth/sunny/32/16368_2.png) [@sunny](https://community.tempest.earth/u/sunny)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2019, 1:42pm UTC](https://community.tempest.earth/t/new-tempest-weather-system/4444/30 "2019-10-18T13:42:46Z")

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> [@WFmarketing](#):
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> No further development to report on an indoor AQ device – increasingly crowded market.

bummer, this would have been a really great addition. Now I have to invest in some other system and also in some third party solution to make a good display that shows all the info in one screen.

I just ordered ‘flow’ from Plume labs. Looks like a nice device and is even portable. Within weeks they will deliver an API. It measures NO2, VOC, PM2.5 and PM10. [https://plumelabs.com/en/flow/](https://plumelabs.com/en/flow/)

(weather flow, plume flow… I must be on to something)

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**Author:** ![bestboy56](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/cc9497/32.png) [@bestboy56](https://community.tempest.earth/u/bestboy56)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2019, 6:44pm UTC](https://community.tempest.earth/t/new-tempest-weather-system/4444/31 "2019-10-18T18:44:44Z")

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You rascals, now my wife will kill me when it comes available✌️ Nice looking! Can’t wait!!

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**Author:** ![GaryFunk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/community.tempest.earth/garyfunk/32/5729_2.png) [@GaryFunk](https://community.tempest.earth/u/GaryFunk)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2019, 7:45pm UTC](https://community.tempest.earth/t/new-tempest-weather-system/4444/32 "2019-10-18T19:45:06Z")

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> [@WFmarketing](#):
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> No further development to report on an indoor AQ device – increasingly crowded market.

Guys. Read again. It does not say it’s been deprecated. It says there is no development to report.

The Weather staff has been busy with priority items.

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**Author:** ![vinceskahan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/community.tempest.earth/vinceskahan/32/2785_2.png) [@vinceskahan](https://community.tempest.earth/u/vinceskahan)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2019, 8:44pm UTC](https://community.tempest.earth/t/new-tempest-weather-system/4444/33 "2019-10-18T20:44:45Z")

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It sure ‘reads’ like they are seriously considering not building it due to the “crowded marketplace” (their term). I think I posted something many months ago mentioning the price points for the competing gear and how hard it seemed to come up with something that either blew the competition away (ouch - bad pun) or had a price that made it a no-brainer. But as always we’ll stay by to be amazed.

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**Author:** ![WFmarketing](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/community.tempest.earth/wfmarketing/32/62_2.png) [@WFmarketing](https://community.tempest.earth/u/WFmarketing)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2019, 12:14am UTC](https://community.tempest.earth/t/new-tempest-weather-system/4444/34 "2019-10-19T00:14:46Z")

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Now public…the pre-KickStarter announcement with a little more teaser: [https://weatherflow.com/kickstarter/](https://weatherflow.com/kickstarter/)

Further details when we actually launch on KickStarter. This page is really just so that interested people can be notified when the campaign launches so they do not miss the best deals. Right now we’re looking at launch date of Oct 28/29…but it’s not in stone.

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**Author:** ![GaryFunk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/community.tempest.earth/garyfunk/32/5729_2.png) [@GaryFunk](https://community.tempest.earth/u/GaryFunk)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2019, 12:15am UTC](https://community.tempest.earth/t/new-tempest-weather-system/4444/35 "2019-10-19T00:15:48Z")

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Thank you so very very much.

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**Author:** ![jgentry](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/community.tempest.earth/jgentry/32/12913_2.png) [@jgentry](https://community.tempest.earth/u/jgentry)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2019, 12:54am UTC](https://community.tempest.earth/t/new-tempest-weather-system/4444/36 "2019-10-19T00:54:17Z")

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Do you need a HUB to retrieve data from the Tempest station or can you retrieve the data via Bluetooth on a smartphone?

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**Author:** ![jgentry](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/community.tempest.earth/jgentry/32/12913_2.png) [@jgentry](https://community.tempest.earth/u/jgentry)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2019, 1:04am UTC](https://community.tempest.earth/t/new-tempest-weather-system/4444/37 "2019-10-19T01:04:12Z")

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Also, is there an improvement in sensor specifications with this tempest system?

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**Author:** ![GaryFunk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/community.tempest.earth/garyfunk/32/5729_2.png) [@GaryFunk](https://community.tempest.earth/u/GaryFunk)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2019, 1:08am UTC](https://community.tempest.earth/t/new-tempest-weather-system/4444/38 "2019-10-19T01:08:28Z")

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> [@WFmarketing](#):
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> The new Tempest hardware device will be backwards compatible with your existing HUB,

This is what the above post states.

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**Author:** ![SLOman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6de8d8/32.png) [@SLOman](https://community.tempest.earth/u/SLOman)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2019, 4:25pm UTC](https://community.tempest.earth/t/new-tempest-weather-system/4444/39 "2019-10-19T16:25:48Z")

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What will be the better deal for existing owners, the Kickstarter get notified 30% off or the (TBD discount deal) current owners offer from WF? Are both offers available without the Hub? Will there be a difference in delivery schedule?

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**Author:** ![WFmarketing](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/community.tempest.earth/wfmarketing/32/62_2.png) [@WFmarketing](https://community.tempest.earth/u/WFmarketing)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2019, 6:19pm UTC](https://community.tempest.earth/t/new-tempest-weather-system/4444/40 "2019-10-19T18:19:25Z")

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> [@SLOman](#):
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> What will be the better deal for existing owners, the Kickstarter get notified 30% off or the (TBD discount deal) current owners offer from WF? Are both offers available without the Hub? Will there be a difference in delivery schedule?

For existing WF owners who already have a HUB, we will offer an “a-la-carte” option to add a Tempest device to your existing system for a LOWER price than complete packages on KickStarter (which, BTW is not necessary, but go for it if you want the latest and greatest). All packages on Kickstarter will be complete with a HUB. Availability / delivery expected around Feb/March of 2020. All WF owners will benefit from the new AI-powered forecasting technology which is forthcoming via a new app release in 2020.

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