# Swaying in the breeze **URL:** \ **Category:** Tempest Owners\ **Tags:** tempest\ **Created:** [June 18, 2024, 5:59pm UTC](https://community.tempest.earth/t/swaying-in-the-breeze/24689 "2024-06-18T17:59:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![fogledale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/6bbea6/32.png) [@fogledale](https://community.tempest.earth/u/fogledale)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2024, 5:59pm UTC](https://community.tempest.earth/t/swaying-in-the-breeze/24689/1 "2024-06-18T17:59:57Z")
I recently reinstalled my Tempest on a longer PVC pole and found it to be swaying a little in a breeze around 15mph. My question is does this affect any of the measurements? If so I’ll install some guide wires. Just didn’t want to do that as I live in a HOA. ---
**Author:** ![vinceskahan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/community.tempest.earth/vinceskahan/32/2785_2.png) [@vinceskahan](https://community.tempest.earth/u/vinceskahan)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2024, 6:35pm UTC](https://community.tempest.earth/t/swaying-in-the-breeze/24689/2 "2024-06-18T18:35:28Z")
Many posts on this topic. The 'ol 10 foot Lowes metal fence top rail always works for this one… ---
**Author:** ![vreihen](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/community.tempest.earth/vreihen/32/13217_2.png) [@vreihen](https://community.tempest.earth/u/vreihen)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2024, 6:55pm UTC](https://community.tempest.earth/t/swaying-in-the-breeze/24689/3 "2024-06-18T18:55:52Z")
Guy wires might whistle in the wind and cause false rain… ---
**Author:** ![fogledale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/6bbea6/32.png) [@fogledale](https://community.tempest.earth/u/fogledale)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2024, 12:06am UTC](https://community.tempest.earth/t/swaying-in-the-breeze/24689/4 "2024-06-19T00:06:14Z")
Thanks for your input. ---
**Author:** ![vinceskahan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/community.tempest.earth/vinceskahan/32/2785_2.png) [@vinceskahan](https://community.tempest.earth/u/vinceskahan)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2024, 2:06am UTC](https://community.tempest.earth/t/swaying-in-the-breeze/24689/5 "2024-06-19T02:06:43Z")
and…Happy Cake Day ! ---
**Author:** ![166k](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/community.tempest.earth/166k/32/16630_2.png) [@166k](https://community.tempest.earth/u/166k)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2024, 3:32am UTC](https://community.tempest.earth/t/swaying-in-the-breeze/24689/6 "2024-06-19T03:32:05Z")
Try filling the pipe with cement mixed slushy. Perhaps slide in rebar and fill with sand? ---
**Author:** ![vinceskahan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/community.tempest.earth/vinceskahan/32/2785_2.png) [@vinceskahan](https://community.tempest.earth/u/vinceskahan)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2024, 2:52pm UTC](https://community.tempest.earth/t/swaying-in-the-breeze/24689/7 "2024-06-19T14:52:51Z")
I’d suggest just using a metal pole rather than PVC and the problem will go away. I found that conduit hangers on the 4x4 post for the fence were perfect for mounting the pole especially if you use stainless bolts+nuts. Then you don’t even need tools to take the pole down periodically, just pinch the hangers and it’s easy to spin the nut off. Works great. Ancient links to the products I use are: > [@Attaching Pole to 4x4 Wood Post?](https://community.tempest.earth/t/attaching-pole-to-4x4-wood-post/2970/2): > > I have mine on a 10 foot fence top-rail attached to my wood fence 4x4 and originally did it your way, but found that using pipe hanger brackets worked better. There’s about the same cost. [https://www.lowes.com/pd/AMERICAN-VALVE-1-in-to-1-in-dia-Galvanized-Clevis-Hanger/3223499](https://www.lowes.com/pd/AMERICAN-VALVE-1-in-to-1-in-dia-Galvanized-Clevis-Hanger/3223499) is one variant. I don’t recall which size I bought so you’ll want to be careful there re: size. If you want me to take a photo of my setup IM me and I’ll do it this weekend sometime. > [@Attaching Pole to 4x4 Wood Post?](https://community.tempest.earth/t/attaching-pole-to-4x4-wood-post/2970/6): > > Here’s the photos - yes they are ‘very’ solid. I used 4 hangers on the low 6’ of the 10’ pole. I made sure to get you both sides of the bag so the UPC code was there. The #2 size is important if you went with the fencing top-rail that a number of people have suggested. [IMG\_20190112\_134234751] [IMG\_20190112\_134246944] I used the same conduit hangers, though the bigger ones, for the Harbor Freight telescoping flagpole that I have my Davis VP2 on with the anemometer at 19’ elevation or so. One person job to pop that down rarely for cleaning. Rock solid. ---
**Author:** ![166k](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/community.tempest.earth/166k/32/16630_2.png) [@166k](https://community.tempest.earth/u/166k)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2024, 3:25pm UTC](https://community.tempest.earth/t/swaying-in-the-breeze/24689/8 "2024-06-19T15:25:21Z")
I installed mine on a 1" steel pipe, clamped to a cemented in the ground 4x4. I used 3 pipe clamps with about a 30 inch pipe to post overlap. Top of pipe is 13 foot high. ![tempest mount](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/uploads/sws/original/3X/2/d/2d8abe9efb7c8c3a8d48e5ad6353729b5e911152.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![fogledale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/6bbea6/32.png) [@fogledale](https://community.tempest.earth/u/fogledale)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2024, 3:39pm UTC](https://community.tempest.earth/t/swaying-in-the-breeze/24689/9 "2024-06-19T15:39:44Z")
Thanks everyone I’ll probably change to a 1" metal pole. ---
**Author:** ![vreihen](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/community.tempest.earth/vreihen/32/13217_2.png) [@vreihen](https://community.tempest.earth/u/vreihen)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2024, 5:28pm UTC](https://community.tempest.earth/t/swaying-in-the-breeze/24689/10 "2024-06-19T17:28:07Z")
The best-kept secret for a PWS mast…that the Tempest fits on: [https://www.homedepot.com/p/Everbilt-Chain-Link-Fence-1-3-8-in-Diameter-x-10-ft-Long-17-Gauge-Thick-Galvanized-Steel-Top-Rail-Post-328913DPTEB/312373065](https://www.homedepot.com/p/Everbilt-Chain-Link-Fence-1-3-8-in-Diameter-x-10-ft-Long-17-Gauge-Thick-Galvanized-Steel-Top-Rail-Post-328913DPTEB/312373065) ---
**Author:** ![vinceskahan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/community.tempest.earth/vinceskahan/32/2785_2.png) [@vinceskahan](https://community.tempest.earth/u/vinceskahan)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2024, 5:45pm UTC](https://community.tempest.earth/t/swaying-in-the-breeze/24689/11 "2024-06-19T17:45:03Z")
THAT ONE !!! (use the conduit clamps I linked and you’re all set) ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/uploads/sws/original/3X/9/5/954d64c24c1612a76fabaaa3298be78bac443b7f.png) [@system](https://community.tempest.earth/u/system)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2025, 5:45pm UTC](https://community.tempest.earth/t/swaying-in-the-breeze/24689/12 "2025-06-19T17:45:13Z")
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