# Wrong time zone on Pine Cay in the Turks & Caicos

**URL:** <https://community.tempest.earth/t/wrong-time-zone-on-pine-cay-in-the-turks-caicos/2808>\
**Category:** Tempest Owners\
**Created:** [December 7, 2018, 2:23pm UTC](https://community.tempest.earth/t/wrong-time-zone-on-pine-cay-in-the-turks-caicos/2808 "2018-12-07T14:23:25Z")\
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**Author:** ![fishrman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f19dbf/32.png) [@fishrman](https://community.tempest.earth/u/fishrman)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2018, 2:23pm UTC](https://community.tempest.earth/t/wrong-time-zone-on-pine-cay-in-the-turks-caicos/2808/1 "2018-12-07T14:23:25Z")

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@weatherflow can a manual way be put into settings for time zone settings I am in southwestern Indiana and about 3 miles from central time zone and that seems to be where I am at as my totals reset at 1 am Not 12 am I should be in Eastern Time zone, My Station ID is 4784 official weather flow map WF47591  
WU map KINVINCE13

Thanks

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**Author:** ![GaryFunk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/community.tempest.earth/garyfunk/32/5729_2.png) [@GaryFunk](https://community.tempest.earth/u/GaryFunk)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2018, 2:43pm UTC](https://community.tempest.earth/t/wrong-time-zone-on-pine-cay-in-the-turks-caicos/2808/2 "2018-12-07T14:43:04Z")

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I wonder how many other stations have this same issue.

@dsj Something is slightly off.

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**Author:** ![fishrman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f19dbf/32.png) [@fishrman](https://community.tempest.earth/u/fishrman)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2018, 2:48pm UTC](https://community.tempest.earth/t/wrong-time-zone-on-pine-cay-in-the-turks-caicos/2808/3 "2018-12-07T14:48:33Z")

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Indiana is a screwed up state when it comes to time zones a small part of North western Indiana is in central TZ and a small part of south western Indiana is in central also the rest is eastern and the politicians are changing it about every 10 yrs but they never put the whole state on same zone

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**Author:** ![GaryFunk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/community.tempest.earth/garyfunk/32/5729_2.png) [@GaryFunk](https://community.tempest.earth/u/GaryFunk)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2018, 3:17pm UTC](https://community.tempest.earth/t/wrong-time-zone-on-pine-cay-in-the-turks-caicos/2808/4 "2018-12-07T15:17:08Z")

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Maybe you could move your Hub three feet to the right. 😉

This is one of those instances where the code just works until an issue like this shows up and then the coder looks at it and says, “Oops.”

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**Author:** ![fishrman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f19dbf/32.png) [@fishrman](https://community.tempest.earth/u/fishrman)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2018, 3:20pm UTC](https://community.tempest.earth/t/wrong-time-zone-on-pine-cay-in-the-turks-caicos/2808/5 "2018-12-07T15:20:09Z")

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I did not pay much attention to it untill I put it on WU yea I go 12 miles south or about 3 miles west and I am in CST

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**Author:** ![GaryFunk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/community.tempest.earth/garyfunk/32/5729_2.png) [@GaryFunk](https://community.tempest.earth/u/GaryFunk)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2018, 3:22pm UTC](https://community.tempest.earth/t/wrong-time-zone-on-pine-cay-in-the-turks-caicos/2808/6 "2018-12-07T15:22:02Z")

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Have you considered moving to a different location?

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**Author:** ![fishrman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f19dbf/32.png) [@fishrman](https://community.tempest.earth/u/fishrman)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2018, 3:22pm UTC](https://community.tempest.earth/t/wrong-time-zone-on-pine-cay-in-the-turks-caicos/2808/7 "2018-12-07T15:22:59Z")

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Not in the last 59 years

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**Author:** ![GaryFunk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/community.tempest.earth/garyfunk/32/5729_2.png) [@GaryFunk](https://community.tempest.earth/u/GaryFunk)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2018, 3:25pm UTC](https://community.tempest.earth/t/wrong-time-zone-on-pine-cay-in-the-turks-caicos/2808/8 "2018-12-07T15:25:40Z")

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David or Corrine @corrineb should be along soon and if we listen closely, we may here that ‘oops.’

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**Author:** ![dtrauger](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/community.tempest.earth/dtrauger/32/63_2.png) [@dtrauger](https://community.tempest.earth/u/dtrauger)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2018, 4:18pm UTC](https://community.tempest.earth/t/wrong-time-zone-on-pine-cay-in-the-turks-caicos/2808/9 "2018-12-07T16:18:47Z")

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@fishrman It appears the our source data for timezone in your area might not be performing as well as we would like and are looking into the issue.

We have adjusted your timezone to the Eastern time zone manually in the database and should resolve the issue you are seeing. Please do not change the latitude / longitude of your location as the action will revert the manual change we just made. If you have any questions, please feel free to let me know.

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**Author:** ![fishrman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f19dbf/32.png) [@fishrman](https://community.tempest.earth/u/fishrman)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2018, 4:57pm UTC](https://community.tempest.earth/t/wrong-time-zone-on-pine-cay-in-the-turks-caicos/2808/10 "2018-12-07T16:57:35Z")

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Thanks for the help and I would not change the coordinates

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**Author:** ![wpns](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/community.tempest.earth/wpns/32/3992_2.png) [@wpns](https://community.tempest.earth/u/wpns)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2019, 11:18am UTC](https://community.tempest.earth/t/wrong-time-zone-on-pine-cay-in-the-turks-caicos/2808/11 "2019-01-24T11:18:21Z")

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I’ve got a similar issue, but I wouldn’t expect it to show up in your timezone database. Station 3110 is on Pine Cay in the Turks & Caicos, and while the TCI is (once again) on Eastern, Pine Cay stays on AST all year round. Is there any way to change my WeatherFlow timezone?

Thanks!

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**Author:** ![eric](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/community.tempest.earth/eric/32/13553_2.png) [@eric](https://community.tempest.earth/u/eric)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2019, 12:27pm UTC](https://community.tempest.earth/t/wrong-time-zone-on-pine-cay-in-the-turks-caicos/2808/12 "2019-01-24T12:27:16Z")

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this is something for @anon84912554

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**Author:** ![dsj](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/community.tempest.earth/dsj/32/3_2.png) [@dsj](https://community.tempest.earth/u/dsj)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2019, 5:31pm UTC](https://community.tempest.earth/t/wrong-time-zone-on-pine-cay-in-the-turks-caicos/2808/13 "2019-01-24T17:31:19Z")

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> [@wpns](#):
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> Is there any way to change my WeatherFlow timezone?

Yes, the database says Pine Cay is in the “America/Grand\_Turk” timezone. We can change your station’s timezone to America/New\_York and it’ll stick as long as you don’t change your station’s location. Would that work?

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**Author:** ![vreihen](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/community.tempest.earth/vreihen/32/13217_2.png) [@vreihen](https://community.tempest.earth/u/vreihen)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2019, 6:10pm UTC](https://community.tempest.earth/t/wrong-time-zone-on-pine-cay-in-the-turks-caicos/2808/14 "2019-01-24T18:10:06Z")

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I believe that he said that Pine Cay stays on AST (GMT-0400) year-round. Here in NY, we absolutely follow daylight savings rules.

I’m pretty sure that San Juan, Puerto Rico is AST year-round (along with most of the eastern Caribbean), which might be a better choice…

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**Author:** ![eric](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/community.tempest.earth/eric/32/13553_2.png) [@eric](https://community.tempest.earth/u/eric)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2019, 6:12pm UTC](https://community.tempest.earth/t/wrong-time-zone-on-pine-cay-in-the-turks-caicos/2808/15 "2019-01-24T18:12:51Z")

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his ip location gives

Location

[Providenciales, Turks and Caicos Islands](https://maps.google.com/maps?q=21.7825,-72.2521)

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**Author:** ![GaryFunk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/community.tempest.earth/garyfunk/32/5729_2.png) [@GaryFunk](https://community.tempest.earth/u/GaryFunk)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2019, 6:13pm UTC](https://community.tempest.earth/t/wrong-time-zone-on-pine-cay-in-the-turks-caicos/2808/16 "2019-01-24T18:13:19Z")

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Are you sure it’s not Daylight Saving? 😉

Please don’t hit me.

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**Author:** ![vreihen](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/community.tempest.earth/vreihen/32/13217_2.png) [@vreihen](https://community.tempest.earth/u/vreihen)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2019, 6:23pm UTC](https://community.tempest.earth/t/wrong-time-zone-on-pine-cay-in-the-turks-caicos/2808/17 "2019-01-24T18:23:18Z")

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I could tell you all kinds of funny stories about cruise ship passengers getting left behind at St. Thomas, USVI at certain times of the year, because USVI and PR stay AST year-round. Cruise directors warn about it until they turn blue in the face, but invariably someone gets to take an awesome selfie from the pier as the ship sails off without them…

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**Author:** ![GaryFunk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/community.tempest.earth/garyfunk/32/5729_2.png) [@GaryFunk](https://community.tempest.earth/u/GaryFunk)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2019, 6:26pm UTC](https://community.tempest.earth/t/wrong-time-zone-on-pine-cay-in-the-turks-caicos/2808/18 "2019-01-24T18:26:12Z")

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I tried to get a ship to sail without me. Unfortunately the shore patrol found my hiding place.

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**Author:** ![wpns](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/community.tempest.earth/wpns/32/3992_2.png) [@wpns](https://community.tempest.earth/u/wpns)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2019, 10:37am UTC](https://community.tempest.earth/t/wrong-time-zone-on-pine-cay-in-the-turks-caicos/2808/19 "2019-01-25T10:37:03Z")

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Yeah, what vreihen said, we’re in our own little (unofficial) time zone separate from the rest of the TCI. Pine Cay stays on AST (GMT-0400) year-round. New York is (currently) wrong, and even Halifax (currently correct) will be wrong after the next DST transition. On my Linux boxes I use System V timezones, AST4 if that helps.

Thanks!

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**Author:** ![wpns](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/community.tempest.earth/wpns/32/3992_2.png) [@wpns](https://community.tempest.earth/u/wpns)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2019, 11:02am UTC](https://community.tempest.earth/t/wrong-time-zone-on-pine-cay-in-the-turks-caicos/2808/20 "2019-01-25T11:02:27Z")

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In fact, that location is in the center of Providenciales, which is the main island, from whence comes my Internet (three different ways, depending on failover). Surely you aren’t suggesting that IP location databases are anywhere near accurate or correct?

[https://www.geoiptool.com](https://www.geoiptool.com) says I’m on Grant Turk (the capitol)  
[https://www.maxmind.com/en/geoip-demo](https://www.maxmind.com/en/geoip-demo) says I’m in Kingston, Jamaica  
As does [http://geoiplookup.net](http://geoiplookup.net)  
and [https://hackertarget.com/geoip-ip-location-lookup/](https://hackertarget.com/geoip-ip-location-lookup/)  
[https://geoip.com](https://geoip.com) says I’m on South Caicos at Cockburn Harbour  
[https://geoiplookup.io](https://geoiplookup.io) says I’m at the Providenciales airport in the city of Cockburn Harbor (which is on South Caicos).

And of course, the canonical:

> **[How an internet mapping glitch turned a random Kansas farm into a digital hell](https://splinternews.com/how-an-internet-mapping-glitch-turned-a-random-kansas-f-1793856052)**
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> An hour's drive from Wichita, Kansas, in a little town called Potwin, there is a 360-acre piece of land with a very big problem.

  
teaches us to take GeoIP services with a grain of salt… (the company behind these has been slowly re-mapping some of the more egregious errors to the middle of nearby lakes, for instance, but there are a non-zero number of problems, and they are difficult to diagnose.

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